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Espn agony of defeat ski jump7/11/2023 ![]() ![]() Bogataj remembers the crash well - windy conditions on an icy ramp. His daughter Sandra translated the interview. They also adjust the seat you sit on to begin up or down along the ramp to prevent them from exceeding the "hill size" where the ground flattens out: Otherwise your angle of approach to the ground does literally start becoming "falling off a cliff". recently caught up by phone with Bogataj, who only speaks a little English. This is why, unlike this particular jump, officials are supposed to closely monitor the wind and not allow a jumper to begin their run with heavy crosswinds. A montage of sporting events that included ski jumper Vinko Bogatajs crash at a 1970 event was shown with Jim McKays famed voiceover: Spanning the globe to. When you get a good side view of a jump, you can see they're never more than about 3 meters off the ground the entire way down. Another example would be those extreme "giant drop" waterslides: You're in free fall for some number of meters, but you're approaching the "ground" aka the slide at like a 10 degree angle, so you make a gentle "landing" on it. ![]() Much like an airplane landing on a runway: You aren't falling off a cliff, you're gliding to a landing. Ski jump hills are graded to a specific curve so you are in essence "orbiting" the ground and slowly approaching it. Obviously with conditions to make a 161m jump you're getting a huge penalty there, which might push you down the ranks a bit. Vinko Bogataj (pronounced Bo-ga-tie) (born 1950) is a former ski jumper from Slovenia who became noted on US television in the 1970s for a moment of spectacular failure that was featured on ABC's Wide World of Sports as the infamous Agony of Defeat. Which just leaves the wind compensation as the final variable. I don't remember the exact distance scoring for this hill size, but 16m longer should more than make up for the reduced style. For comparison, the Norwegian who jumped in the same group landed at 145m to secure the win for the Norwegian team. But this was a team competition so 1 exceptional jump won't quite make the cut. In an individual competition a 161m jump might still give you the win. ![]() So you end up losing between 18-24 points, which is usually more than the points you get from the extra distance. Suspended in midair, Bogataj flips head over skis, but is fortunate to land on his side, not his head. Good, long jumps with a decent landing usually get in the range of 18.5-19 for the counting scores. Still on the jump, he slides on his backside, then his skis spin as he falls off the lip. Highest and lowest score is removed, giving a max of 60. The style points are given by 5 judges, with 20 points being the max each. In the introduction as a voice speaks the agony line, a ski jumper crouched and speeding down the ramp wobbles, falls. 6:38 PM EST While training for a ski jumping World Cup in Tauplitz, Austria, last Friday, January 10, three-time Olympic champion Thomas Morgenstern lost his balance midair and. But it counts for the competition, with a significant loss of style points. The daredevils failed attempt to jump Snake River Canyon in the mid 1970s was borderline mythical growing up even though a prematurely deployed chute derailed the attempted 'jump.'. ![]()
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